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BriZimm
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2009, 07:21:15 AM »

I believe in Gun Control.

Gun Control does not equal "taking away guns from citizens."

Americans were armed during the Constitution drawing because each man was to protect their property from Natives and the British, since at that time we had no conceivable Army and our citizens took up arms to fight for our freedom as a nation.

In today's world, we have thousands of fully automatic sub-machine guns in suburban houses with small children. the two times can not be compared. "Red Dawn" will NOT happen. And as much many of you think our government would destroy it's citizens if given an inkling of a chance, the government is NOT out to exterminate it's own population. It's paranoia and immature.

I don't care how much of a gun addict you are. If you are a responsible gun owner, like myself, you have no problem with some of the following:

1. Longer waiting lists. What the hell do you need a gun for right now anyway?
2. Convicted felons lose the right to bear arms, forever.
3. Mandatory classes for individuals on how to handle a weapon, store them safely, and protect your children from gaining access.
4. Barrel Rifling fingerprinting.
5. I also think if gun owners want automatic weapons they should submit to a psychological evaluation. I'm not saying machine gun collectors are crazy, but it would stop someone who is unbalanced and confused from snapping in the future, if those tendencies were discovered prior to issuing the weapon in the first place.

Criminals have guns in excess because gun owners don't protect their guns and they are stolen from them. If everyone is taught how to be a responsible gun owner, thefts of guns will go down, as well as criminal possession of unregistered, and scratched guns. Of course, I realize smuggling is a big issue too, but taking care of thefts would severely deter criminal possession.

Many people are not smart enough to read traffic signs in the US, but can get an MP5 in 2 weeks. That's crazy...
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2009, 09:00:32 AM »

well put, bri!
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2009, 09:04:16 AM »

I believe in Gun Control.

Gun Control does not equal "taking away guns from citizens."

Americans were armed during the Constitution drawing because each man was to protect their property from Natives and the British, since at that time we had no conceivable Army and our citizens took up arms to fight for our freedom as a nation.

In today's world, we have thousands of fully automatic sub-machine guns in suburban houses with small children. the two times can not be compared. "Red Dawn" will NOT happen. And as much many of you think our government would destroy it's citizens if given an inkling of a chance, the government is NOT out to exterminate it's own population. It's paranoia and immature.

I don't care how much of a gun addict you are. If you are a responsible gun owner, like myself, you have no problem with some of the following:

1. Longer waiting lists. What the hell do you need a gun for right now anyway?
2. Convicted felons lose the right to bear arms, forever.
3. Mandatory classes for individuals on how to handle a weapon, store them safely, and protect your children from gaining access.
4. Barrel Rifling fingerprinting.
5. I also think if gun owners want automatic weapons they should submit to a psychological evaluation. I'm not saying machine gun collectors are crazy, but it would stop someone who is unbalanced and confused from snapping in the future, if those tendencies were discovered prior to issuing the weapon in the first place.

Criminals have guns in excess because gun owners don't protect their guns and they are stolen from them. If everyone is taught how to be a responsible gun owner, thefts of guns will go down, as well as criminal possession of unregistered, and scratched guns. Of course, I realize smuggling is a big issue too, but taking care of thefts would severely deter criminal possession.

Many people are not smart enough to read traffic signs in the US, but can get an MP5 in 2 weeks. That's crazy...
I actually agree...
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2009, 10:51:34 AM »

I believe in Gun Control.

Gun Control does not equal "taking away guns from citizens."

Americans were armed during the Constitution drawing because each man was to protect their property from Natives and the British, since at that time we had no conceivable Army and our citizens took up arms to fight for our freedom as a nation.

In today's world, we have thousands of fully automatic sub-machine guns in suburban houses with small children. the two times can not be compared. "Red Dawn" will NOT happen. And as much many of you think our government would destroy it's citizens if given an inkling of a chance, the government is NOT out to exterminate it's own population. It's paranoia and immature.

I don't care how much of a gun addict you are. If you are a responsible gun owner, like myself, you have no problem with some of the following:

1. Longer waiting lists. What the hell do you need a gun for right now anyway?
2. Convicted felons lose the right to bear arms, forever.
3. Mandatory classes for individuals on how to handle a weapon, store them safely, and protect your children from gaining access.
4. Barrel Rifling fingerprinting.
5. I also think if gun owners want automatic weapons they should submit to a psychological evaluation. I'm not saying machine gun collectors are crazy, but it would stop someone who is unbalanced and confused from snapping in the future, if those tendencies were discovered prior to issuing the weapon in the first place.

Criminals have guns in excess because gun owners don't protect their guns and they are stolen from them. If everyone is taught how to be a responsible gun owner, thefts of guns will go down, as well as criminal possession of unregistered, and scratched guns. Of course, I realize smuggling is a big issue too, but taking care of thefts would severely deter criminal possession.

Many people are not smart enough to read traffic signs in the US, but can get an MP5 in 2 weeks. That's crazy...

That actually sounds pretty good...
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2009, 12:48:39 PM »

Is it wrong of me to be a little disappointed that no one has disagreed with me, yet?  Sad

I'm actually okay with not getting in an argument, I'm just sayin' Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2009, 01:10:29 PM »

Lol.. be happy Wink
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2009, 01:13:19 PM »

Is it wrong of me to be a little disappointed that no one has disagreed with me, yet?  Sad

I'm actually okay with not getting in an argument, I'm just sayin' Smiley

I could start an argument just for the heck of it if you want...
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2009, 02:44:38 PM »

Is it wrong of me to be a little disappointed that no one has disagreed with me, yet?  Sad

I'm actually okay with not getting in an argument, I'm just sayin' Smiley

I could start an argument just for the heck of it if you want...
I was considering playing devils advocate just for fun, but its the end of the day and i'm spent...  Wink
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2009, 02:48:54 PM »

Is it wrong of me to be a little disappointed that no one has disagreed with me, yet?  Sad

I'm actually okay with not getting in an argument, I'm just sayin' Smiley

I could start an argument just for the heck of it if you want...
I was considering playing devils advocate just for fun, but its the end of the day and i'm spent...  Wink

That's ok, I can wait.
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2009, 07:39:56 PM »

I just don't understand the purpose of needing to let people have a gun. If next to no one has a gone than there isn't even a need to have a gun to defend yourself, you can resort to other ways of defense. It's just not something I can fathom. Don't get me wrong, I know several people who have guns like for hunting and stuff and I'm ok with that because that's the world we live in. But if it guns were strongly controlled (assuming the money and resources were available) than a pro would be so many innocent lives would be saved and the con would be taking away our "right" to own a gun or the fact that we shouldn't be controlled...but the pro seems to completely make any con completely small in comparison.
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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2009, 07:48:49 PM »

I just don't understand the purpose of needing to let people have a gun. If next to no one has a gone than there isn't even a need to have a gun to defend yourself, you can resort to other ways of defense. It's just not something I can fathom. Don't get me wrong, I know several people who have guns like for hunting and stuff and I'm ok with that because that's the world we live in. But if it guns were strongly controlled (assuming the money and resources were available) than a pro would be so many innocent lives would be saved and the con would be taking away our "right" to own a gun or the fact that we shouldn't be controlled...but the pro seems to completely make any con completely small in comparison.

i understand where you're coming from, swimqt, but your califoniacation may not let you see the big picture.  the government may not always been there to help defend us.  you can trust in the government, but i would never put 100% faith in anything.  our government is okay, but think about north korea's militant government.  those citizens needs guns, and they need to overthrow the government.  you think about guns and you see gang-banging and shoot'em up drive-bys.  i think about guns and think about protecting my family, and myself in case the need ever arose.  what if wwIII did happen?  what if there was a nuclear fallout and everyone was pillaging what they could?  what if someone wanted to try to rape or kill you, and then steal the little bit of water you had left.  your shovel might work for a bit, but water will be worth more than lives someday in the not so distant future.  utopia is a dream.  get a gun.  be prepared. Wink
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« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2009, 06:01:39 AM »

I just don't understand the purpose of needing to let people have a gun. If next to no one has a gone than there isn't even a need to have a gun to defend yourself, you can resort to other ways of defense. It's just not something I can fathom. Don't get me wrong, I know several people who have guns like for hunting and stuff and I'm ok with that because that's the world we live in. But if it guns were strongly controlled (assuming the money and resources were available) than a pro would be so many innocent lives would be saved and the con would be taking away our "right" to own a gun or the fact that we shouldn't be controlled...but the pro seems to completely make any con completely small in comparison.

i understand where you're coming from, swimqt, but your califoniacation may not let you see the big picture.  the government may not always been there to help defend us.  you can trust in the government, but i would never put 100% faith in anything.  our government is okay, but think about north korea's militant government.  those citizens needs guns, and they need to overthrow the government.  you think about guns and you see gang-banging and shoot'em up drive-bys.  i think about guns and think about protecting my family, and myself in case the need ever arose.  what if wwIII did happen?  what if there was a nuclear fallout and everyone was pillaging what they could?  what if someone wanted to try to rape or kill you, and then steal the little bit of water you had left.  your shovel might work for a bit, but water will be worth more than lives someday in the not so distant future.  utopia is a dream.  get a gun.  be prepared. Wink
Lets be honest here, guns arent really for protection anymore.  In fact, I believe, that most times a gun is in an attempt to protect one-self, it ends up causing more harm than good.  Burglar breaks into your home, you, an unexperienced gun user, tries to reach for the hiding place (that responsible gun owners keep their guns in), and fumble to load it (again, as responsible gun owners keep their guns unloaded).  The burglar, now realizing what is going on, now has to defend himself rather than just taking what he wants and leaving and resorts to violence rather than just scare tactics, and boom, violence ensues.
Guns are mostly for recreation and to make people feel safer.  It is a right given to us a long time ago, and i know times have changed, but I believe that we should retain that right with appropriate controls (such as BriZimm outlined) to combat our changing world.  But to say that we could actually use guns to overthrow our government or protect ourselves in case of a "nuclear fallout" is just silly (sorry wankerc5).  People need to be honest as to why they want guns and stop hiding behind these bogus reasons.

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